Misconceptions regarding Final Encounter of Karna vs Arjuna! Logicastra Exposed again!
Logicastra agin beating the bush in his another silly blog. Time to expose it.
Claim
Karna himself chose Shalya as his charioteer, not the other way around: Though inferior to Arjuna in respect of these things, I still desire to fight with him. This Shalya, however, the ornament of assemblies, is equal to Saurin. If he becomes my driver, victory will certainly be thine. Let Shalya, therefore, who is incapable of being resisted by foes be the driver of my car. Let a large number of carts bear my long shafts and those that are winged with vulturine feathers. Let a number of foremost cars, O monarch, with excellent steeds yoked unto them, always follow me, O bull of Bharata's race. By these arrangements I will, as regards the qualities mentioned, be superior to Arjuna. Shalya is superior to Krishna, and I am superior to Arjuna. As that slayer of foes, viz., he of Dasharha's race, is acquainted with horselore, even so is that mighty car-warrior, viz., Shalya acquainted with horselore. There is none equal to the chief of the Madras in might of arms. As there is none equal to myself in weapons, so there is none equal to Shalya in knowledge of steeds. So circumstanced, I will become superior to Partha. http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m08/m08031.htm
Response
Yes. He asked Shalya to become his charioteer because he was not aware of Yudhishthira's plan. Udyoga Parva VIII
And Yudhishthira said, ‘O valiant king, it has been well-done by thee that being pleased at heart thou hast plighted thy truth to Duryodhana. But good betide thee, O ruler of the earth, I ask thee to do one thing only. O king, O best of men, thou wilt have to do it solely for my sake, though it may not be proper to be done. O valiant one, hear what I submit to thee. O great king, thou art equal to Krishna on the field of battle. When, O best of kings, the single combat between Karna and Arjuna will take place, I have no doubt thou wilt have to drive Karna's car. On that occasion, if thou art inclined to do good to me, thou must protect Arjuna. O king, thou must likewise so act that the Suta's son Karna may be dispirited and the victory may be ours. Improper it no doubt is; but, O my uncle, for all that thou must do it.’
Salya said, 'Good betide thee. Listen, O son of Panda. Thou tellest me to so act that the vile son of the Suta may be dispirited in fight. To be sure, I shall be his charioteer on the field, for he always considers me equal to Krishna. O tiger like descendant of Kuru, I shall certainly speak to him, when desirous of fighting on the field of battle, words contradictory and fraught with harm to him, so that bereft of pride and valour, he may be easily slain by his antagonist. This I tell thee truly. Asked by thee to do it, this I am determined to do, O my son. Whatever else I may be able to bring about, I shall do for thy good. Whatever troubles were suffered by thee together with Draupadi on the occasion of the game at dice, the rude inhuman words uttered by the Suta's son, the misery inflicted by the Asura Jata and by Kichaka, O illustrious one, all the miseries experienced by Draupadi, like those formerly experienced by Damayanti,--will all, O hero, end in joy. Thou shouldst not be aggrieved at this; for Destiny is all powerful in this world; and, O Yudhishthira, high-minded persons have to endure miseries of various kinds, nay, even the gods themselves, O king, have suffered misfortunes. O king, O descendant of Bharata, it is narrated that the high-minded Indra, the chief of the celestials, had to endure together with his wife very great misery, indeed.'
So when Shalya was appointed as charioteer, Yudhishthira asked Shalya to demoralize Karna and Shalya accepted his offer.
Claim
Karna cried and begged Arjuna for giving him time to take out his wheel.
http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m08/m08090.htm
Response
Karna not begged Arjuna. He only asked him to follow the rules of war which was the duty of warrior. Arjuna not followed it because he was a coward. Karna Parva 90
O Partha, the left wheel of my car swallowed through accident by the earth, abandon (instead of cherishing) this purpose (of striking and slaying me) that is capable of being harboured by only a coward. Brave warriors that are observant of the practices of the righteous, never shoot their weapons at persons with dishevelled hair, or at those that have turned their faces from battle, or at a Brahmana, or at him who joins his palms, or at him who yields himself up or beggeth for quarter or at one who has put up his weapon, or at one whose arrows are exhausted, or at one whose armour is displaced, or at one whose weapon has fallen off or been broken! Thou art the bravest of men in the world. Thou art also of righteous behaviour, O son of Pandu! Thou art well-acquainted with the rules of battle. For these reasons, excuse me for a moment, that is, till I extricate my wheel, O Dhananjaya, from the earth.Karna accpected that Arjuna will follow rules of war but when he denied Karna again started to fight him.
Claim
Shalya told Karna to aim properly to kill Arjuna with a shaft. But out of arrogance Karna did not listen: The Suta's son did not know that the snake Aswasena had entered his arrow by the aid of his Yoga powers. Beholding Vaikartana aim that arrow, the high-souled ruler of the Madras, addressing Karna, said, "This arrow, O Karna, will not succeed in striking off Arjuna's head. Searching carefully, fix another arrow that may succeed in striking off thy enemy's head." Endued with great activity, the Suta's son, with eyes burning in wrath, then said unto the ruler of the Madras, "O Shalya, Karna never aimeth an arrow twice. Persons like us never become crooked warriors." Having said these words, Karna, with great care, let off that shaft which he had worshipped for many long years. http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m08/m08090.htm
Never become crooked warriors? Hmph! Very contradictory of Karna to say this when he led so many group attacks against Pandava warriors like Satyaki, Abhimanyu, Dhrishtadyumna etc. He launched group attacks against Arjuna too
Response
Idiot Arjuna fans! Karna aimed weapon properly but Lord Krishna pressed the chariot and saved Arjuna.
Indeed, seeing that snake (in the form of an arrow) aimed by Karna, Madhava, that foremost of all persons endued with might, put forth his strength and thus pressed down with his feet that car into the earth, whereat the steeds, (as already said) bending down their knees, laid themselves down upon the earth when the car itself had sank into it.
Claim
Karna attacked an unarmed lord Krishna when he was trying to lift Arjunas chariot out of the ground: After that snake had been cut off by Arjuna, the lord Keshava himself, O king, of massive arms, that foremost of beings, raised up with his arms that car from the earth. At that time, Karna, glancing obliquely at Dhananjaya, pierced that foremost of persons, viz., Krishna, with ten shafts whetted on stone and equipped with peacock feathers. http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m08/m08090.htm
This proves that whenever Karna is unable to prove his skill over Arjuna he has to go after Arjuna's friends and family.
Yes charioteers like Krishna usually keep weapons and whips with them but Krishna was completely unarmed over here because all of his intention, arms and body/strength was focused on lifting Arjuna's chariot out of the ground. His arms were on the chariot, this was also the same position that Karna was in when he died.
Response
First Propaganda that Krishna was lifting wheel at that time is false.
the lord Keshava himself, O king, of massive arms, that foremost of beings, raised up with his arms that car from the earth. At that time, Karna, glancing obliquely at Dhananjaya, pierced that foremost of persons, viz., Krishna, with ten shafts whetted on stone and equipped with peacock feathers.Karna attacked when he had raised up the wheel. Shooting arrows at charioteer was not a new thing. Many charioteers of both side lost their life.
Claim
Arjuna wounded Karna with arrows to the extent that Karna was incapable of even wielding his Vijaya bow: Deeply struck by Partha with those diverse arrows of keen points and fierce energy, Karna (covered with blood) looked resplendent like a mountain of red chalk with streams of red water running adown its breast. Once more Arjuna pierced Karna in the centre of the chest with many straight-coursing and strong shafts made entirely of iron and equipped with wings of gold and each resembling the fiery rod of the Destroyer, like the son of Agni piercing the Krauncha mountains. Then the Suta's son, casting aside his bow that resembled the very bow of Sakra, as also his quiver, felt great pain, and stood inactive, stupefied, and reeling, his grasp loosened and himself in great anguish. http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m08/m08090.htm
I couldn't find a good picture to depict this incident, but here.
Response
Yes Arjuna wounded Karna but it doesn't prove that he overpowered him. Karan's bow did not fall but Arjun's bow fell down completely. Karna Parva 91
His grasp became loosened, at which his bow Gandiva dropped from his hand.
Claim
When Arjuna stopped firing arrows at Karna to give him time to recover, Krishna told Arjuna to kill him don't give him time to recover: The virtuous Arjuna, observant of the duty of manliness, wished not to slay his enemy while fallen into such distress. The younger brother of Indra then, with great excitement, addressed him, saying, "Why, O son of Pandu, dost thou become so forgetful? They that are truly wise never spare their foes, however weak, even for a moment. He that is learned earneth both merit and fame by slaying foes fallen into distress. Lose no time in precipitately crushing Karna who is always inimical to thee and who is the first of heroes. The Suta's son, when able, will once more advance against thee as before. Slay him, therefore, like Indra slaying the Asura Namuci." http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m08/m08090.htm
Response
Well! Lord Krishna said and Arjuna broke the rule of war. It doesn't make any sense. Arjuna could deny him once but he didn't. Shalya also told Karna to relaunch his weapon but Karna denied and followed the rule of war. Karna Parva 90B
Beholding Vaikartana aim that arrow, the high-souled ruler of the Madras, addressing Karna, said, "This arrow, O Karna, will not succeed in striking off Arjuna's head. Searching carefully, fix another arrow that may succeed in striking off thy enemy's head." Endued with great activity, the Suta's son, with eyes burning in wrath, then said unto the ruler of the Madras, "O Shalya, Karna never aimeth an arrow twice. Persons like us never become crooked warriors."
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