Fake defeat of Karna in rajasuya by Arjuna fans.

A fake site Logicastra (but without logic) claims wrong things about Karna. Now I am here to expose him. That liar was claiming that Bhima who was running like a coward from Vrishasen (son of Karna) had defeated Mrityunjaya. Now time to expose.

Claim a,b and c

FROM KMG - And making the earth tremble by means of his troops consisting of the four kinds of forces, the foremost of the Pandavas then encountered Karna that slayer of foes. And, O Bharata, having subjugated Karna and brought him under his sway, the mighty hero then vanquished the powerful king of the mountainous regions. Sabha Parva: Jarasandhta-badha Parva: Section XXIX

Response:- 

So what! There is nowhere written that Karna, son of radhey was defeated by Bhima. Two Karna was killed by Bhima in Kurukshetra war (who was son of  Dhritrashtra) but Karna in reality was killed by Arjuna. It means that there were many Karna. http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m07/m07024.htm

Karna; Vivinsati and Vikarna, Sala, Satwa, Sulochana, Chitra and Upachitra, Chitraksha, Charuchitra, Sarasana, Durmada and Durvigaha, Vivitsu, Vikatanana; Urnanabha and Sunabha, then Nandaka and Upanandaka; Chitravana, Chitravarman, Suvarman, Durvimochana; Ayovahu, Mahavahu, Chitranga, Chitrakundala, Bhimavega, Bhimavala, Balaki, Balavardhana, Ugrayudha; Bhima, Karna, Kanakaya, Dridhayudha, Dridhavarman, Dridhakshatra, 

In his KMG quotation earlier it is even written that he defeated Kansa of Mathura but Kansa was already killed by Krishna. It means that there can be many people of name Karna.

Senseless Common sense

Claim

Karna was present in rajasuya sacrifice it means that he was defeated by Pandavas.

Response

Not only Karna, but all kuru warriors were present their as they were invited by Yudhishthira.

Vaisampayana said,--"the ever-victorious Nakula, the son of Pandu, having reached Hastinapura, formally invited Bhishma and Dhritarashtra. The elder of the Kuru race with the preceptor at their head, invited with due ceremonies, came with joyous hearts to that sacrifice, with Brahmanas walking before them. And, O hull of the Bharata race, having heard of king Yudhishthira's sacrifice, hundreds of other Kshatriyas acquainted with the nature of the sacrifice, with joyous hearts came there from various countries, desiring to behold king Yudhishthira the son of Pandu and his sacrificial mansion, and brought with them many costly jewels of various kinds. And Dhritarashtra and Bhishma and Vidura of high intelligence; and all Kaurava brothers with Duryyodhana at their head; and Suvala the king of Gandhara and Sakuni endued with great strength; and Achala, and Vrishaka, and Karna that foremost of all charioteers; and Salya endued with great might and the strong Valhika; and Somadatta, and Bhuri of the Kuru race, and Bhurisravas and Sala; and Aswatthama, Kripa, Drona, and Jayadratha, the ruler of Sindhu; and Yajnasena with his sons, and Salya that lord of earth and that great car warrior king Bhagadatta of Pragjyotisha accompanied by all Mlechcha tribes inhabiting the marshy regions on the sea-shore; and many mountain kings, and king Vrihadvala; and Vasudeva the king of the Paundrayas, and the kings of Vanga and Kalinga; and Akastha and Kuntala and the kings of the Malavas and the Andhrakas; and the Dravidas and the Singhalas and the king of Kashmira, and king Kuntibhoja of great energy and king Gauravahana, and all the other heroic kings of Valhika; and Virata with his two sons, and Mavella endued with great might; and various kings and princes ruling in various countries; and, O Bharata king Sisupala endued with great energy and invincible in battle accompanied by his son--all of them came to the sacrifice of the son of Pandu. 

https://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m02/m02033.htm 

All Kuru warriors like Kripa, Drona were present at that place but they were not defeated by Pandavas. All warriors came with joyous hearts as written it means they were guests of Pandavas. About Sishupal it is written that he was invincible in battle.
It means even he was not defeated by anyone and pandavas.

Claim

Bhima was sent to conquer the eastern direction of south asia (bharatvarsh) - Vaisampayana said,--in the meantime, Bhimasena also endued with great energy, having obtained the assent of Yudhishthira the just marched towards the eastern direction. Sabha Parva: Jarasandhta-badha Parva: Section XXVIII

Response

There were two Angas in the east. Even Karna attacked an Anga in East.

Then descending from the mountain and rushing to the east, he reduced the Angas, and the Bangas, and the Kalingas, and the Mandikas, and the Magadhas. https://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m03/m03252.htm?fbclid=IwAR19jCmLxkreTf8cpkQBO59L_0BwI3bmOez8vLb1447CNtjDUmhBddJPxSk

Claim

Pathetic excuse to justify the disrobing of Karna at the hands of Bhima. Some fool fans of Karna say that he was invited to the sacrifice of the Pandavas as a respected guest and he was asked to give gifts to all other invitees/guests. That theory is a complete lie and the people who make this claim often take the whole incidents out of context to overglorify and highlight Karna. The truth is that Yudhishthira never asked Karna to do anything. Karna had no role in the sacrifice, he was just their as a defeated king who was forced to pay tribute to the Pandava's. He was not given any role he was not allowed to receive any gifts, the Pandavas just made him watch as they performed their grand sacrifice, their victory parade, the Rajasuya. Screenshot from Bori Mahabharata

Response

This illiterate has crossed every limit of idiocy now. Karna and other Kings were guest. How can one ask his guest to do work? Even Sishupal not asked to do anything but he was not defeated. Karna was not a family member so he was not given any work. Let me prove that all invited Kings were guests.

Then Bhishma, O king, addressing king Yudhisthira the just, said, "O Bharata, let Arghya (an article of respect) be offered unto the kings as each of them deserveth. Listen, O Yudhishthira, the preceptor, the sacrificial priest, the relative, the Snataka, the friend, and the king, it hath been said are the six that deserve Arghya. The wise have said that when any of these dwell with one for full one year he deserveth to be worshipped with Arghya. These kings have been staying with us for some time. Therefore, O king, let Arghyas be procured to be offered unto each of them. And let an Arghya be presented first of all unto him among those present who is the foremost."Hearing these words of Bhishma, Yudhishthira said--'O Grandsire, O thou of the Kuru race, whom thou deemest the foremost amongst these.https://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m02/m02035.htm

So all Kings were guests that's why they were worshipped with Arghya. If they were defeated then why they will be respected.

O son of Kuru, regardest thou Krishna as the Ritwija? When old Dwaipayana is here, how hath Krishna been worshipped by thee? Again when old Bhishma, the son of Santanu, that foremost of men who is not to die save at his own wish is here, why, O king, hath Krishna been worshipped by thee? When the brave Aswatthaman, versed in every branch of knowledge is here, why, O king, hath Krishna, O thou of the Kuru race, been worshipped by thee? When that King of kings, Duryyodhana, that foremost of men, is here, as also Kripa the preceptor of the Bharata princes, why hath Krishna been worshipped by thee? How, O son of Pandu, passing over Druma, the preceptor of the Kimpurusas, hast thou worshipped Krishna? When the invincible Bhishmaka and king Pandya possessed of every auspicious mark, and that foremost of kings--Rukmi and Ekalavya and Salya, the king of the Madras, are here, how, O son of Pandu, hast thou offered the first worship unto Krishna? Here also is Karna ever boasting of his strength amongst all kings, and (really) endued with great might, the favourite disciple of the Brahmana Jamadagnya, the hero who vanquished in battle all monarchs by his own strength alone.  

 Karna was also worthy of arthya. Sishupal said that Karna could vanquish all monarchs present their in battle. If Karna was defeated,

Claim

Dhritarashtra mentions that Karna has always lost to Kunti’s sons in all his battles with them - Karna will never succeed, O Sanjaya, in vanquishing those mighty bowmen, viz., the sons of Pritha. In all the battles that Karna has fought with the sons of Pandu, the latter have invariably defeated him on the field. Drona Parva: Jayadratha-Vadha Parva: Section CXXXII

Response

This fan jumped from Bori to KMG. He is talking about Rajasuya defeat and jumped to Kurukshetra war. By the way, as per BORI this is an interpolation.https://sanskritdocuments.org/mirrors/mahabharata/unic/mbh07_sa.html

Claim

This powerful hero, who is a very great warrior when mounted on a car--this Bhima, of appetite rivalling a wolf's conquered single-handed all the rulers of men in the east, together with, those who followed them in battle; and he returned from those wars safe and uninjured. 

https://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m03/m03119.htm

And Karna was clearly a ruler of men in the east. 

Response

In the same chapter, it is written that Nakula vanquished all Kings in West.

Valiant in battle Nakula vanquished single-handed the kings who ruled the regions towards the west,

But King of Chanderi, Shishupal was not under their control. Hastinapur was not under their control. It means that this statement is not valid.

 Claim

Bhishma exposes how Karna simply brags about his skills despite getting defeated by the Pandavas and others - http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m05/m05049.htm

'Although this one often boasteth saying, "I shall slay the Pandavas", yet he is not equal to even a sixteenth part of high souled Pandavas. Know that the great calamity that is about to overtake thy sons of wicked souls, is the act of this wretched son of a Suta! Relying upon him, thy foolish son Suyodhana hath insulted those heroes of celestial descent, those chastiser of all foes. What, however, is that difficult feat achieved by this wretch before that is equal to any of those achieved of old by every one of the Pandavas? Beholding in the city of Virata his beloved brother slain by Dhananjaya who displayed such prowess, what did this one then do? When Dhananjaya, rushing against all the assembled Kurus, crushed them and took away their robes, was this one not there then? When thy son was being led away as a captive by the Gandharvas on the occasion of the tale of the cattle, where was this son of a Suta then who now belloweth like a bull? Even there, it was Bhima, and the illustrious Partha, and the twins, that encountered the Gandharvas and vanquished them. Ever beautiful, and always unmindful of both virtue and profit, these, O bull of the Bharata race, are the many false things, blessed be thou, that this one uttereth.'

Response

 These words were said by Bhishma to show Karna inferior. Karna exposed him in front of all.

Karna said. 'It behoveth thee not, O blessed grandsire, to use such words towards me, for I have adopted the duties of the Kshatriya order without falling off from those of my own. Besides, what wickedness is there in me? I have no sin known to any one of Dhritarashtra's people. I have never done any injury to Dhritarashtra's son; on the other hand, I will slay all the Pandavas in battle. How can they that are wise make peace again with those that have before been injured? It is always my duty to do all that is agreeable to king Dhritarashtra, and especially to Duryodhana, for he is in possession of the kingdom.'

 Claim

Kripa questions Karna’s achievements: http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m04/m04049.htm

What, however, O Kama, hath been achieved by thee single-handed like any of the sons of Pandu, each of whom had alone subjugated many lords of earth?

Response

Kripa, Drona and BhisaBh always tried to show Karna inferior to Arjuna. Read what was he saying in same chapter.

Let Drona and Duryodhana and Bhishma and thyself and Drona's son and ourselves, all fight with the son of Pritha. Do not O Kama, act so rashly as to fight alone. If we six car-warriors be united, we can then be a match for and fight with that son of Pritha who is resolved to fight and who is as fierce as the wielder of the thunderbolt. 

If Arjuna could defeat them all, why he had to hide behind shikhandi to kill Bhishma? Why didn't hehkilled Drona when he was armed?  Why he killed Karna when he was pulling his wheel. Even Krishna exposed these words of Kripa, it means that he was not saying right.

Beholding these exceedingly wonderful things and this worship offered to Duryodhana, the Pandavas headed by Vasudeva became ashamed. Hearing (invisible beings cry out) that Bhishma and Drona and Karna and Bhurishrava were slain unrighteously, they became afflicted with grief and wept in sorrow. Beholding the Pandavas filled with anxiety and grief, Krishna addressed them in a voice deep as that of the clouds or the drum, saying, "All of them were great car-warriors and exceedingly quick in the use of weapons! If ye had put forth all your prowess, even then ye could never have slain them in battle by fighting fairly! https://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m09/m09061.htm?fbclid=IwAR2KWDltBYIG0jXyNbblLt9Ta9qFmAXHmjQWY08G-tvPrwCq5AosAawL7pM

Do you still think that Karna was inferior to
Pandavas.

Claim

Aswathamman destroyed Karna’s delusions of grandeur: 

http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m04/m04050.htm

In what single combat didst thou vanquish Dhananjaya, or Nakula, or Sahadeva, although thou hast robbed them of their wealth? In what battle didst thou defeat Yudhishthira, or Bhima that foremost of strong men? In what battle was Indraprastha conquered by thee?

Response

Here it is written that Karna has never defeated Pandavas. But it is not written that Pandavas have defeated Karna. It could mean that they were never engaged in war or every combat was tie.

Note:- There were many anga and Vanga because even Karna attacked these kingdoms.

Conclusion:- Arjuna fans are biggest liars of the world.